08-12-2015, 03:54 PM
Because people are messed up
Why do GF ship Dipper and Mable and Ford and Stan
08-12-2015, 03:54 PM
Because people are messed up
08-12-2015, 04:56 PM
If you can pair them they will because there's a ship for everyone.
08-12-2015, 06:17 PM
Welcome to the dark side of this Fandom:
08-12-2015, 08:10 PM
A bit of ship hate I'd like to express just once, please know I don't hold the ships against anyone who does ship them (Click to View)
There's a couple of reasons people seem get into ships like this.
1) Dipper and Mabel's close bond. It makes it slightly more understandable as to why they'd get involved, but it's also rather frustrating that characters can't be close together without recognizing that romance doesn't have to be the only bond. It also seems like other ships between close friends (Candy and Grenda, Lee and Nate) ought to be getting more traction if it was just a matter of close relationships, but I think that's more due to the fault of its popularity due to the other reasons and Dipper and Mabel getting much more screen time.
2) Incest just for the sake of incest. Stancest was already a thing back when the twin theory was just starting out. (And, quite scarily to be honest, I've seen Dipper/Stan be shipped a few times. And no, Dipper wasn't aged up.) It seems that the idea of something being 'forbidden' just makes it that more appealing to some.
3) Trying to imitate some other popular trends. (Kinda goes a lot with the earlier two reason but I guess I wrote this wrong) I'm not sure where these ideas come from, but in addition to the weird upholding of incest, wanting a ship between the main characters seems to be another driving force, wanting to join other fandoms in shipping with a show primarily about family. On a side note, this seems to be the case with Billdip as well, to the point of pretty wild mischaractization, IMO. Due to the popularity of hero/villain (and male/male in particular) ships, combined with conventionally attracted humanized Bills, Bill and Dipper's few snarky lines between each other is suddenly enough to have build a sweet, caring relationship between the two, despite Bill's dark personality and dislike of romance and Dipper's distrust of him, as well as the huge age gap. (I've even seen speculation that Dipper's motive for a lot of his investigation was to impress Bill after Dreamscaperers. There was even less canon interaction between the two then (Dipper was only with Bill for the fight and his first appearance), yet somehow that seems enough for him to be head-over-heels for him.
It's certainly not all the time. There are ships people enjoy that are based on positive relationships in the show like Wendip, Candydip, Dipicca, Mabcifica, explicitly canon ships like Starla, Robry, Mabel and Mermando, Soos and Melody, and Grenda and Marcius, and some ships just in headcanons like the ones between members of Stanford's mystery team (Fiddleford, Stanford, and Blind Ivan, and sometimes Stanley in AUs) and Fiddleford and Susan. (I don't have a preference with these ships over others, I'm just listing them as ships I've seen multiple people ship)
But these ships seem to get a great deal more popularity than they deserve. Similarly close relationships are frequently abundant, and family doesn't need to be thrown out the window just for the sake of romance or incest (which, honestly, has no reason to be held in high regard at all).
Again, I don't hold it against anyone who does ship these (especially the popular ones since they're usually changed a lot to justify them), this is just something that's been bothering me for a while.
Keeping: Dipper's Disposable Cameras, Floating Eyeballs
08-12-2015, 10:04 PM
I was completely unaware the Ford and Stan were shipped.
...but they hate each other. why would you ever ship them?
08-12-2015, 10:26 PM
Because true love always begins with bickering: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Ma...ualTension
08-13-2015, 10:10 AM
(08-12-2015, 10:04 PM)Ontheceiling Wrote: I was completely unaware the Ford and Stan were shipped.
That's known as the "Hateship". Gideon and Dipper are another example of a popular "Hateship".
This is really common in Anime/Video Game fanfiction. So if you are used to reading those genre fanfics, it shouldn't come as a surprise seeing it elsewhere.
People still pair up Cloud and Sephiroth as a ship in FFVII fics even to this day, when we all know they would gut each other with their swords on sight.
Part of this problem is "Woobification" of a villain or a character that has really good reason why they wouldn't like another character in-show.
Suddenly, Sephiroth is no longer a power-hungry insane psychopath bent on destroying the world: "He's just simply misunderstood! And needs someone who understands him!"
Or from Code Geass: "Lelouch and Suzaku used to be such great friends together! They may hate each other now, but they still like each other in secret. Well, time to completely ignore the fact that both characters have done some really, really horrible awful things to each other and others!
Or also ignore the fact that if the character is aware of how Lelouch acts they shouldn't fricking trust Lelouch if their life depended on it!"
As to Gravity Falls fanfics, both Gideon and Bill suffer from "Woobification" from certain fans. Bill more so than Gideon does.
Don't show a hyena how well you can bite.--Mandi proverb
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08-13-2015, 10:41 AM
When two characters hate each other: "I ship them!"
When two characters are in a relationship: "What?"